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pumpkin pie · Aug 12, 2008, 03:55 AM // 03:55

I would like to propose that the Luxon Navigator and the Kurzick Kommandant be stationed in both Cavalon and House zu Heltzer respectively. Also put them in the Great Temple of Balthazar.

Reason:
There are players who currently do not have a guild and who do not want to be in a guild but have the faction campaign and wants to do the Alliance Battle Title Track, they are unable to donate faction if they do not have a guild, they also have no way of getting into an Alliance Battle unless they are force to join a guild. therefore, I propose that they be given this so that they can join in the Alliaince Battle without having to join a guild.

Thank You.

farmerfez · Aug 12, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

/signed because I've been in this position before where I wanted to AB but didn't have a guild.

credit · Aug 12, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

I remember this always being annoying when I was in the process of looking for a guild.

/signed

BPB · Aug 12, 2008, 04:17 AM // 04:17

i beat fractions before i knew of such a thing like ab becuase i did not have a guild

GaaaaaH · Aug 12, 2008, 04:21 AM // 04:21

it also helps with needing guest invites to build your rep on the other side (100g isnt worth anything, buts it's annoying)

Kanyatta · Aug 12, 2008, 04:23 AM // 04:23

I don't see why people should be blocked off from a part of the game like Alliance Battles just because they aren't in a guild.

No, I don't want to pay 100 gold to make a guild, then get 5k faction through questing or however, because I shouldn't be forced to.

Silverhand · Aug 12, 2008, 04:32 AM // 04:32

Yeah
/signed
I have almost r2 kurz title but I'm n a Luxon guild to gvg and I hate struggling to find guest invites during dbl ab weekends

mllepandora · Aug 12, 2008, 04:50 AM // 04:50

I recall A-net saying something about that being "one of the benefits of guild membership" or something to that effect, but seeing as they have already made it easier to build faction on both sides, (the shrine blessings and etc.) I agree with this being changed as well.

But I don't foresee any changes being made, really. A-Net has said they don't have any intention of changing it, afaik.

I hand out guest invites as often as I can, so if anyone needs access to the Luxon side, go ahead and /whisper me in game.

<----IGN

Zahr Dalsk · Aug 12, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21

I see WHY they have it, I think it's to stop teams of Luxons or Kurzicks sneaking on the opposite side, entering, and then leaving to screw over the enemy faction, but my fellow tricksters get away with that all the time, so it doesn't really stop us. (We just pretend to be Luxons and get guested to a guild or join one.)

I'd like to see this done, and I'd also like to see a way to get the double title progress without having to spend the time joining a guild, donating, and exiting.

/signed

Konig Des Todes · Aug 12, 2008, 05:49 AM // 05:49

As Mllepandora hands out Luxon guest invites, I'll be willing to hand out Kurzick guest invites (and I do if asked). So if you need to get to Kurzick side AB, whisper me in game and why (I usually don't respond to a random "Hi" and "Hey").

Oh, and /signed for this idea, always had. Would like to be able to AB with my Luxon friends every now and then without having to waste their 100g each time, small amount of money but it gets annoying constantly guesting the same someone.

mllepandora · Aug 12, 2008, 05:58 AM // 05:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

I see WHY they have it, I think it's to stop teams of Luxons or Kurzicks sneaking on the opposite side, entering, and then leaving to screw over the enemy faction, but my fellow tricksters get away with that all the time, so it doesn't really stop us. (We just pretend to be Luxons and get guested to a guild or join one.)

Well, I can see your point there, I wasn't thinking of that sneaky tactic!

But given the (admittedly broken-ish) dishonor system, wouldn't that actually happen a bit less than it would have before dishonor was implemented?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

I'd like to see this done, and I'd also like to see a way to get the double title progress without having to spend the time joining a guild, donating, and exiting.

Now, THIS I agree with 200%. Would be much easier to get both titles.

EDIT: I'll have to take you up on that offer Azazel, whenever I get around to finishing the Luxons... cool to know!

Zahr Dalsk · Aug 12, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by mllepandora

But given the (admittedly broken-ish) dishonor system, wouldn't that actually happen a bit less than it would have before dishonor was implemented?

Hehe - no

We don't leave. So we don't get dishonour points. I'm not sure if you can report the other 4-man teams in AB, but it hasn't happened to us yet, and we always roll with 4 Kurzicks. We basically run around the map not capping and doing things like casting Life Attunement on the Luxon physicals and casting Iron Mist on Kurzick NPCs. As well as chatting in All Chat. Sometimes we run 55hp monks, but we make sure not to bring Protective Spirit.

Gift3d · Aug 12, 2008, 06:33 AM // 06:33

/signed for a different reason.

I mostly join PvP guilds which sometimes are in a luxon alliance. I'm trying to work on my kurzick title at the same time, so it'd be nice to AB for kurzick faction while in a luxon alliance.

mllepandora · Aug 12, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

We don't leave. So we don't get dishonour points. I'm not sure if you can report the other 4-man teams in AB, but it hasn't happened to us yet, and we always roll with 4 Kurzicks. We basically run around the map not capping and doing things like casting Life Attunement on the Luxon physicals and casting Iron Mist on Kurzick NPCs. As well as chatting in All Chat. Sometimes we run 55hp monks, but we make sure not to bring Protective Spirit.

Ah. Well. I am far too sportsmanlike to think of that, I guess. I like the challenge of a good match, no matter what side I'm playing for. (and consequently, I'm all for a solution that would prevent those intentional sabotage teams...no matter how they got into the AB outposts..)

That might explain a lot of my battles over this weekend though...

(and as horrible as it sounds, I can't blame all my losses on double agents, considering I've seen more than enough teams agree on capping tactics, only to run straight for the nearest mob the second the gate opens.)

Good thing it's only a game, and there are much better places to indulge in serious PvP if I so choose. Chaotic AB battlefields and losses all come with the territory....

EDIT: Added quoted post for clarity.

T. Drake · Aug 12, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Oh please yes!

The waiting times on the Kurzick side are unbearable sometimes (my Guild thinks about joining the Luxons for this reason). I also don't care about factions allegiance.

upier · Aug 12, 2008, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanyatta

I don't see why people should be blocked off from a part of the game like Alliance Battles just because they aren't in a guild.

No, I don't want to pay 100 gold to make a guild, then get 5k faction through questing or however, because I shouldn't be forced to.

I thought GvG worked like that also?

Anyway on-topic:
Yeah it would be sweet.
Personally it doesn't bother me much because IRS LUXON 4 LIFE!11!!1 (

) - but it makes the gaming experience more enjoyable without much trouble.

Ohh and while we are at the subject of AB - Tolkano in all AB outposts please!

MithranArkanere · Aug 12, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12

More people getting to places is always a good idea.

Zahr Dalsk · Aug 12, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

I thought GvG worked like that also?

Except that unlike GvG, AB is formed with lots of people from many other guilds.

I'm not sure why it's called Alliance Battles since most of the time people don't play with their alliance in AB; they just get people from the entry areas.

MithranArkanere · Aug 12, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Except that unlike GvG, AB is formed with lots of people from many other guilds.

I'm not sure why it's called Alliance Battles since most of the time people don't play with their alliance in AB; they just get people from the entry areas.

Maybe they should add REAL alliance battles and leave those as Faction battles, alowing anyone to join?

HawkofStorms · Aug 12, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01

The number of people who actually CARE about the Faction war or have a strong loyalty to one side has gone down significantly since when Factions first came out. Many people have armor/titles from both sides.
I doubt the griefer/leaver problem would be significant enough to not impliment ths.